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Pasadena REPEALS 1995 Ammo Law!

On Monday 18 August the Pasadena City Council voted to repeal an ammunition-registration ordinance enacted in 1995.
The council also ignored pleas from gun-control freaks to adopt "alternate" proposals.
The "law" which was originally passed with great fanfare required ammo buyers to write their names and addresses in a ledger at the points of purchase. The police would then go around and collect those. The Pasadena Police said the measure was WORTHLESS and, in fact, gun-related homicides rose during the first year this stupid "law" was in force.
THAT from the City from whenst I came. Good for Pasadena! Let's hear it for REASONABLE politicians and one more DEFEAT for the anti-Constitutionalists!!

"Saturday Night Special/Junk-Gun" Myth De-Bunked by EXPERT!!


Saturday Night Special' myth


By Eugene J. Wolberg
(Wolberg is a forensic scientist with the San Diego Police Department. He specializes in the identification and classification of firearms and is a court-qualified expert witness with 19 years of experience. The views expressed in this article are his own and not necessarily those of the San Diego Police Department.)
"Saturday Night Special" There's a term that everyone understands, or do they?
It's been said that "nothing is so firmly believed that is so least understood." This definitely applies to the "Saturday Night Special" debate.
My purpose here is not to convince you to support or not support an SNS law. That is your choice. My purpose is to give you the facts so that you can make an informed decision.
The first thing that must be made clear, from a firearms identification technology point of view, is that the term Saturday night special does not exist as a type of firearm. The term is one of perception, one of belief, a media or political term. From the point of view of trying to identify SNS as a type of firearm or establish a physical description of the gun, this identification attempt is pointless and simply cannot be done with any precision.
The reason for this is that the manufacturing technology and materials used cross all boundaries in firearms manufacture. Expensive and inexpensive firearms share many factors in design, materials used and chambering. There is nothing that characterizes the supposed Saturday night special from many other handguns. Insisting otherwise reflects a tremendous misunderstanding of firearms manufacturing technology.
While we normally think that SNS's are cheap handguns, under the definitions offered by the people writing these bans, virtually all handguns can be included.
I have studied the West Hollywood SNS ordinance (currently being used as a model for other municipalities) and have found it fraught with technical and identification errors. The reason for this is that the West Hollywood model is a reverse-engineered ordinance; that is, the guns to be banned were listed first and the definitions were written later to cover the list.
Unknown to the authors of the SNS law, the definitions used actually describe a much larger list than was envisioned by the ordinance's drafters. The guns included are most of today's modern firearms that use plastics, nylon polymers, zinc and aluminum for their construction materials.
In effect, the ordinance is a fraud. The curve was drawn first and the data points plotted later.
The reality is that the proposed SNS ban goes after a group of identified manufacturers rather than after a specific type of firearm, loosely and perjoratively called Saturday night specials.
Unrepresentative tracing data from the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms is often cited to show that these pistols are used in a majority of gun crimes. This is untrue. The real incidence of use is somewhere between 10 and 15 percent depending on the year, and these percentages are steadily declining, mostly due to economic factors.
It should be noted that the Association of Firearm and Toolmark Exam- iners addressed the SNS issue in 1987. AFTE is an international association of court-qualified firearms experts with members in 24 countries. The association produces a glossary of firearms terms that are accepted by the membership and used in court testimony and firearms investigations. The AFTE Glossary does not describe a SNS because the gun does not exist as a specific type of firearm.
It is also interesting to note that rather than one clear and concise definition of a Saturday Night Special, the authors of the West Hollywood ordinance, which contains parts of the ordinance suggested by the San Diego County Board of Supervisors, had to use three different methods in attempting to define a SNS.
The first method is to define the construction of a firearm having a "frame, barrel, breechlock, cylinder or slide that is not completely fabricated of heat-treated carbon steel, forged alloy or other material of equal or higher tensile strength" as a SNS. This definition would require handguns to be made completely of stainless steel, chrome-moly steel, or heat-treated steel.
In addition, gun parts would have to be forged; a process used by only a few handgun manufacturers. The most current manufacturing technology features casting, polymer injection, powdered metal technology and metal stampings. If parts are cast from steel, zinc, aluminum or by injection molding of polymer metal, the gun would be considered a SNS.
This description would include virtually all of the handguns that are issued to law enforcement officers in San Diego County. Pistols that are normally considered high-quality firearms would be considered SNS's under the ordinance.
The second definition is any semi-automatic pistol that does not come with a "locked breech action" and is designed to accept ammunition which causes the development of "maximum permissible breech pressures above 24,100 copper units of pressure, as standardized by the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI).
But a "locked breech action" is not defined. If one accepts the term "locked breech" to mean anything that is not a blowback action, then effectively only blowback guns would be affected if the breech pressure was in excess of 24,100 cup. This definition bans only higher pressure cartridges, such as the 9mm Parabellum (Luger) that use blowback mechanisms. This would not only include the Jennings 9mm (a supposed Saturday night special) but also the Spanish Astra Models 1921, M-400 and M-600. Also included is the H&K VP-70Z, which is an expensive Blowback 9mm Luger pistol. It should be noted that this gun's frame is made of nylon polymer and the slide of metal stampings.
The third definition is any handgun which 1.) Uses any action mechanism substantially identical in design to any action mechanism manufactured in or before 1898 that was designed to take very low-powered rimfire ammunition and, 2.) That is now chambered to fire ammunition of higher pressures. This would include all 9mm and some .380 ACP loadings. As mentioned above, not only would the Bryco and Jennings pistols be affected, but also Heckler & Koch and Spanish Astra firearms. Also included would be the Walther PPK in .380, a rather high grade and expensive semi-auto pistol.
This third portion of the proposed SNS ordinance is vauge. Firearms manufactured before 1898 are considered curios and relics, in other words, antiques. It is unclear just what pre-1898 mechanism is being referred to since even semi-automatic pistols existed before 1898.
This third part of the definition also includes firearms that have barrels less than four inches. This portion of the ordinance bans pistols based on the barrel length. Quality and price are not factors. Therefore any pistol with a barrel less than 4 inches would be considered a SNS if the pistol was a blowback, and using a non-steel frame. This would include firearms such as the Beretta 950 series, the Taurus PP22 series and the latest Smith and Wesson models 2213 and 2214. These are all high-quality, well-made firearms.
Those who favor attempting to ban SNS's argue that safety is a prime factor. They say that pistols not made of steel are inherently unsafe. The myth spread by the uninformed is that these guns blow up while being fired. This is utterly false. As a police forensic specialist, I have been test-firing these firearms for 19 years and have never seen one blow up or be destroyed when using factory ammunition.
It is true that when cheaper materials are used to construct the firearm, the gun may wear out faster. But this does not make the firearm unsafe. Any firearm of any construction can become unreliable if improperly maintained or used.
All U.S. firearm manufacturers, including those who make so-called Saturday night specials, adhere to chamber-pressure standards set by the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI).
In sum, Saturday night specials cannot be defined with anything close to the required precision.
From The San Diego Union-Tribune
Sunday, June 22, 1997
Page G-1


By the way......


THE most popular "crime guns" according to the BATF are as follows:
1. Smith & Wesson .38 Special revolver
2. Raven Arms .25 cal (junk?)
3. Davis P-380 (junk?)
4. Smith & Wesson .357 revolver
5. Ruger .22 cal revolver
6. Lorcin L-380 (junk?)
7. Smith & Wesson semi-auto handgun
8. Mossberg 12-gauge shotgun
9. Tech DC-9 (junk?)
10. Remington 12-gauge shotgun
HARDLY "Junk Guns" even by idiot's standards!!!!!

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